I have been using 12# pink ande for my steelhead rod (drift fishing) and have been very impressed with it. I also am impressed with izor line I use that on my bigger salmon pole. I have not had any bad things to say about either one of those lines. The only time anything bad has happend is when I messed up We'll I guess I better get of here and pack my bags time to go to work tomarow for two weeks later everyone Drift.