Ill make this short and sweet! SHOOT IT !!!! its done it once it will do it again!

Most people don't realize that Rotts by nature aren't attack dogs. Originally they were herd dogs. They came to Germany by way of Russia when they herded animals there.
My sister had a Rott that was a big baby. That thing would go into the chicken pen and herd little tiny chicks around. Damnedest thing I've ever seen.
Hey Y'all referred to the .22 scrambling situation. This is why the mob prefers a .22 for hits. No mess and it scrambles them good.

As far as Rotts being #2 on the list of killing kids, there's a ton of them out there and they weigh about twice as much as most kids.

Rotts for the most part I've seen are big babies. Same with pit bulls. I've never seen so much energy as you see in a pit bull. But there's IDIOTS out there (like 2 of my neighbors) that live on 1/4 acre lots and insist on getting a big dog (both Australian Shephards in this case). Makes me want to go over and smack the neighbor. The one behind me broke a board on the fence and repeatedly came over to chase the cats that hang out in the backyard. I popped it with the BB gun just as the woman was hollering at it to come home.
The next weekend it was back again, this time it growled at me. Came in stuffed the .38 in my pants and told the wife I was going to get firewood. As I'm walking towards the back door, I look out and see that they're finally fixing the dang fence.
So close.

What a bunch of MORBID SOB'S, who find it so easy to say just kill the dog, shoot it between the eyes (to messy),shoot at the base of the skull, use a baseball bat ETC. You picked the breed, it's your responsibility to train it either by a professional or yourself if your qualified, which I doubt. It seems dogs are like shoes if you don't like them or the way they fit, throw them away or in your case kill him, that's real sad. Next time you get a dog (and I hope you don't) get a stuffed one at the fair they are guaranteed easy to train.

I am sorry to here about your son; my son had a similar injury when he was 2 years old. I was in line at the store with my son by my side and the guy in front of us swung his arm back (by accident) and stuck the hot box of his cigarette in my sons eye, creating a quick trip to Emergency room. Gee, should I have decked the guy with a baseball bat? No it was an accident.
Hope you can find a nice home for your dog, let your conscious be your guide.

I apologize for my reluctance to return any response, to the remarks,bashes,and the concerns over my ability to spell and puncuate properly. In my original post i noted I am on a Web Tv system and it sucks. I cant print,download,stream video,or even see any small print on any website I cannot see any of the icons. I also am new to the web, or computer in general. I find it strange that you guys would be worried, about my spelling, or any aspect of my writing skills or IQ. This is not english 101, this is me voicing my thoughts about something i am passionate about, Not to justify the spelling, but i was in a hurry. Look at the time i posted. I went over to the OP, to try and bang some chrome. The Duc, and calawha, were not in good shape at all, ventured to the smaller OP streams, and found some fish. I am leaving again tonight or early am for a few more days. As far as my IQ I gaudge my IQ on what i said at my last job. I QUIT. Im 35 years old, retired, Happily married, wife supports my fishing craziness, I go to the OP minimum 5 times a month I fish the upper stretces of certain systems and release every thing i get, Only because i hit Sitka 2 times yearly, and am not a big fish eater. I have deckhanded on a marlin charter in Kona, seiner in SE alakaa, Ive lived all over the world,and fished in europe,alaska,montana,oregon california,idaho,marathon key florida,jersy coast, the point is my IQ and spelling are not relevant on this board,( I hope) I didnt mean to come across as a no kill supporter BLACKDOG. I just dont think killing your family pet for a first time snap at your child is a normal or moral thing to do. I did not mean to be so agressive, and i am sorry for that. Phish Phreak Sorry Man, I was out of line and i am sure your a good pops, Kids are hard to monitor 24/7. The comments were made out of my personal love for my dgs they mean the world to me. Also the fish porno remark in my profile was meant as a joke and i tell my wife that my STS magazine is my hustler of fishing and the cover gets my juices flowing more than a centerfold. I am a laid back hard core angler who can be found by the trail of good green and elk trails that take you to the promise land of fishing.

Fishnjunkie, I can tell alot about you already, not because of what you do or have done, but the fact is when you've done someone wrong you admit it and are willing to apologize. Not many men would that. I'll bet your a good husband, father and would be a great friend to get to know. Welcome to this board.

Riverliver- This is an animal we are talking about and it sounds like to me an unpredictable dog at that..Get off your frickin soap box!!"save all animals " Its just that an animal..and yes if it was me and someone put a cig in my son or daughters eye accident or not you bet the SOB would have hit the floor...And after that the boots would be applied.That is being CARELESS plain and simple if someone is gonna have something that can harm others in there hands then they should be carefull and be left responsible for there actions.

This dog will do this again and since it is an ANIMAL I believe it should be destroyed.There is no sense in taking a chance with this ANIMAL and having it do this again or even worse..This ANIMAL has harmed a human!!

"SEEK AND DESTROY"

I bet if a cougar had attacked one of your children while they were out playing and the childs face was all tore up and the cougar was sitting on the swing set watchin you, you wouldnt run in get a gun and blast the [Bleeeeep!] According to your post it should run FREE!!!
I CALL BULLSHIAT!!!

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FishnJunkie - thanks for the appolgy. I do understand where you were coming from.

I am a good pop and a good dog dog owner. Unfortuneately, a mistake was made that can't be undone, but that does not suddenly turn me into a rotton parent or reckless dog owner. (or the dog into a vicious killer) What determines that is how I respond to this situation.

Sunday night I'm giving my dog to a fellow board member who does not have kids and does have rottie experience. He clearly knows what he's getting into, and wants to give the dog a chance at another 5 years of a happy life.

My son looks a lot better and still loves our yellow lab a lot. We plan to keep the lab, and will ensure that he is not put in the position to make the same mistake.

I can't believe I'm stuck at work this weekend!! Hope you guys are having a blast out there as I write this (or are resting sore arms on the couch).

-Chad

I know I'm a little late and what happened has probably already happened but I had to say to Lead slinger that this sight is for MEN who fish and hunt and you are just a PU**Y that needs to go hug a tree or something. If the dog is flopping around after you shoot it in the head shoot it again. It does suck to have to shoot your dog but it is the right thing. It is still just a dog and the kid is much more important.

i dont think hes trying to say dont kill it. i think hes trying to say just dont shoot it or hit it with a bat. I think it should be put down humanely or find a new home, and not hit with a bat ect. I think we all need to realize that dogs were WILD animals at one time and still have some of their natural instincts like protecting food or territory. have you ever noticed when a dog goes to lay down it turns a circle or two before it does it? that is a natural instinct, they do it to push down the grass or brush that they are sleeping on, they dont need to any more because they sleep on rugs or beds or whatever INSIDE our houses but they still do it. I'm not trying to make friends on this post and am not trying to make enemies either, I'm stating my beliefs. I'm sorry your son got injured. Cowlitzfisherman i know some people that have 3 rotts and a baby boy. these dogs are the SWEETEST NICEST LOVING dogs you will ever meet. i think they get their bad rep from their size and the damage they can do because of it...
tyler
P.S. BTW how can yall be so sure the dog will do it again. I may be wrong but i dont think you ever said why your son got bitten.

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I hope all is well with your son and the dog. I think your decision as to how to best protect your family, and be a responsable pet owner at the same time was one that did not come easy. I am glad i will never have to face that situation, It seems that my little swimmers are doing the backstroke and cant make it to the spawning grounds. Thank God.. I love kids but i love the freedom more. I look forward to more positive fishing posts as this one provided a huge variety of responses, A learning experiance for sure. G-Man Thanks right back at ya. If i had just one wish it would only be to forever fish.....

You are correct,Tyler.I hope the right home is found for the dog,failing that a humane end for the dog is better than one that seeks to satisfy anger or Ripalips attempts to prove his manliness by shooting (someone elses) a dog.Anyone who thinks that shooting a pet is related to manhood is a little lacking in my view.
I suspect Ripalip is merely trying to start trouble.He might have done a little better if "he" wasn't afraid to say "pussy".

Tyler, if that last question was directed to me ("BTW how can yall be so sure the dog will do it again?), well, I can tell you that I'm sure he will never do it again to anyone in my family. And to me, that's what's important. And I trust the gentleman on this board who is adopting him will be responsible enough to ensure it does not happen to anyone else.

Sometimes a dog looses it and attacks. When this happens, it is qite common for them to become repeat offenders - and usually the breaking point comes a lot quicker the second time. In our case, it was not an agressive attack, but a nip out of self defense or some other reflex action. While it is quite possible that we could have learned our lesson and kept the dog - just focused on some heavy training and took further precautions with the kids, it is just a gamble I can't afford to take - especially since I have a second son who was just born in October.

PhishPhreak GOOD decision. i'm glad that you gave the dog away insted of killing it. i know it must have been a tough decision to you, but i think it was healthy for you and the dog to do what you did.my best wishes to your son and family and i hope you son has a healthy and speedy recovery!
tyler

im sorry i know this is over but heres one thing you have to remember that dogs are inbred. say a owner in the 1940's buys 2 purebred pups from the same littler and decides to breed them, brother and sister, they get a good 5 years in and on their last litter the owner keep 2 pups, a brother and sister, and they get a good 5 years in and so on and so on. if being inbred can make a person mentally unstable imagine what it can do to a dog over all those years. also who knows how many times the dogs were inbred before the owner in the 40's buys them? (i've seen some people that were inbred in goldbar and it was not a pretty site, one stole some of my buddies fishing gear and she almost beat the s#it out of him)next time we all buy a dog go to a animal shelter or make sure they are not inbred a whole hell of alot.
Tyler
P.S. I'll shut my mouth now

PhishPhreak,

Sam is currently snoring on his bed behind me. Dogs are getting along well, no fights yet. I think things are going to be just fine betweent the two of them. Going down to the lake today to give the hounds a bath.

Sandshrimp

Thanks Sandshrimp. It was nice to meet you and your wife. Good luck getting him out of the lake once he decides to get in (: