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#200935 - 06/13/03 02:59 PM 882 Sockeye
CDSeattle Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 05/21/02
Posts: 208
Loc: Woodinville, WA
...on the first day. 349,118 more to go.

Any predictions?

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#200936 - 06/13/03 04:46 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
scalecarp Offline
Parr

Registered: 04/21/03
Posts: 63
Loc: Seattle
I don't think there is going to be enough sockeye for the sport fishery to open. Last year there was 1000+ fish on the first day and there was barely more than 350,000 fish for the season to open for 2 short days. But I really hope they would open it again this year smile

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#200937 - 06/13/03 04:56 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Easy Limits Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 05/06/01
Posts: 2959
Loc: Nisqually
Ya, that sockeye count makes it hard to make a guess as to them opening the fishery up.
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#200938 - 06/13/03 04:57 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Bobber Down Offline
Spawner

Registered: 04/30/99
Posts: 526
Loc: Lake Forest Dark, Wa
My estimate 349,999 laugh

How about this prediction: 50 million pink salmon heading back to the Fraser this fall! eek fishy fishy fishy fishy fishy


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#200939 - 06/13/03 05:34 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Sky-Guy Offline
The Tide changed

Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
Ouch bobber, that makes my arm hurt!

Can you beleive these numbers??? That is one hell of alot of boats out on the lake.


Some Statistics from the
2000 Lake Washington
Recreational Sockeye Fishery
Number of sockeye inspected by WDFW samplers 6,319
Number of boat interviews conducted 3,650
Number of hours sampled at boat ramps 246
Number of boat counts (from ground) 52
Number of boat counts (from plane) 13

Days sampled July 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16
Days not sampled July 5, 7, 11, 12
Number of boat launches sampled per day 2
Top three boat counts (from aerial surveys) 7 AM on July 15 2,365 boats
6 AM on July 4 1,793 boats
9 AM on July 16 1,754 boats

Highest daily number of boats July 8 4,738

Highest daily number of anglers July 8 11,435
Top three sockeye catch per angler rates July 4 AM period 1.5 sockeye/angler
July 4 PM period 1.2 sockeye/angler
July 5 AM period 1.0 sockeye/angler
Highest daily number of sockeye caught July 4 15,116
Season total angler days 77,422
Season average sockeye catch per angler 0.8
Season total sockeye caught 62,237
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#200940 - 06/13/03 05:37 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Jeff D Offline
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Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
Is this count maintained on a website somewhere? If so, will you provide a link?

July 16th we can try and intercept these Sockeye in the salt in area 9! Any saltwater sockeye spots/techniques anyone would be willing to share?

I caught my two off the west side of Whidbey just casting a pearl white buzz bomb. They sure hit hard!

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#200941 - 06/13/03 07:46 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 965
Loc: Seattle, Washington
Here you go, its on the WDFW website.

http://www.wa.gov/wdfw/fish/sockeye/counts.htm

Regarding techs, I'm going to try a few out this year - primarily trolling some bare hooks behind 5-10 dodgers. Do a quick search for sockeye and you will probably come across this topic from last year.

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#200942 - 06/13/03 10:34 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
bri24 Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 283
Loc: Renton, WA
Sure would be nice if the number's picked up. We had a blast last year on the two day's. what
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#200943 - 06/14/03 12:33 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
G-MAN Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/23/01
Posts: 379
Loc: BELLINGHAM / EVERSON
How about an Est, 6 million+ Sockeye returning this year!!!!!! beathead

5 weeks to go, not that I'm counting or anything thumbs
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#200944 - 06/16/03 11:28 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
Jeff D Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
Little Fish,
Do you plan to troll red hooks behind the flasher? What is the recommended trolling speed, Slow?

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#200945 - 06/16/03 02:22 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
ramstrong Offline
Juvenille at Sea

Registered: 12/17/99
Posts: 148
Loc: Glenside, PA USA
G-Man have you installed your new gillnetphobic jet pump for this year? I've been hoping to escape up there for some quality flossing time this summer but it's not looking like it's going to be happening. Have fun filling your freezer with tasty vittles from the fraser.
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#200946 - 06/16/03 03:53 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Little Fish Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/28/01
Posts: 965
Loc: Seattle, Washington
Jeff - I don't have any real life experience fishing for sockeye in the salt so I will be experimenting to see what works. The general tech I've read about is to stack multiple dodgers on your downrigger wire.....or link several of them together. These dodgers are for attraction only. If using bare red hooks I plan on running them behind a dodger. I've also heard small pink/red lures work so will try those as well (both by themselves and behind a dodger).

Because I don't have any practical experience I'm going to experiment....starting slow and then increasing my speed.

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#200947 - 06/16/03 04:02 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Slab Quest Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 08/17/01
Posts: 1614
Loc: Mukilteo or Westport
The Mukilshoots will be netting hard and heavy in Shilshole to keep the counts down.
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#200948 - 06/17/03 11:50 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
Jeff D Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
Thanks Little Fish:
I will be doing the same in area 9, so I will let you know what I lear and hope to hear from you if you have some success.

I'll have to wait until July 16th however.

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#200949 - 06/18/03 01:48 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
MasterCaster Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
Quote:
The Mukilshoots will be netting hard and heavy in Shilshole to keep the counts down
Please tell me you are kidding???? We possibly get a couple days "if the run is healthy enough" but these [expletive] can net the hell out of them?
I will end my comment now, while I am still allowed on this board. You pro-tribes people can just pop in your Dances with Wolves tape and keep your comments to yourselves please.....
beathead
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#200950 - 06/18/03 02:22 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
Jeff D Offline
Spawner

Registered: 05/12/03
Posts: 881
Loc: S. Whidbey
MC -
The Dances with Wolves comment struck me as pretty darn funny, but seriously, don't you think just as many white guys would be doing the same thing if they had the chance?

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#200951 - 06/19/03 02:50 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
MasterCaster Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 368
Loc: Florida
You are absolutely right Jeff...... A large majority in this country would (Whites) and do plunder and abuse (Enron, MCI, Martha, etc.).
But.... I would at least say in the case of the Indians that they preach loving the land, being one with it, and being stewards of the land for the Great Being, etc., that their crimes against the resource is worse...... At least the scum-bag, screw their mom to make a buck, white people will admit they are out for #1 and will do whatever it takes to make their riches.
If the Indians would at least admit (a large portion of them) that they only cared about the money end of it I would not be so critical.
The Dances with Wolves thing is just a point. Great movie, good depiction of the terrible way the old ones were treated, but, mainly a way to keep the guilt alive in this country. With guilt comes sympathy, which then spawns special priviledge and consideration. Heck, look at what the Holocaust has, and continues to do for the Jewish people. They have been riding that wave for 60 yrs now with no let up in site.....

*Sigh* The madness will never end, as we are really no where near as intelligent as we like to believe.

MC beathead
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#200952 - 06/19/03 10:54 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
ltlCLEO Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 06/15/01
Posts: 1104
Loc: brownsville wa.
mastercaster,
Is this a fishing board or an outlet for the aryan nation?

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#200954 - 06/19/03 11:37 AM Re: 882 Sockeye
DUROBOAT15 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 09/08/02
Posts: 812
Loc: des moines
Only 4350 fish as of 6/16 its not looking real promising that there will be a sport season.
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#200955 - 06/19/03 06:10 PM Re: 882 Sockeye
barnettm Offline
Spawner

Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 614
Loc: Maple Valley, Wa.
Tp me the most upsetting thing about this fishery is the WDFW's insistance on at least 350,000 fish before they have any kind of season. I bet they could open the season for a 3 day weekend every year and the run would do fine. During the 400,000 fish years maybe 30,000 fish would be caught. If the run was 200,000 then 15,000 would be caught. In other words, every year the same percentage (say 7-8%) would be caught in one weekend and the remaining 93% would be left to spawn. Having a season only once every 6-7 years is a waste.

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