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#537465 - 09/14/09 04:40 PM Israeli Foreign Aid
Thrasher Offline
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While having a short lived conversation with a co-worker about this topic, I Googled and found this. I am not too up on this topic, so I was hoping that perhaps, someone could shed some good light or good reasons as to WHY? Is there ANY good reason?

http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080225002431AAqbufF

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#537469 - 09/14/09 04:43 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Thrasher]
Todd Offline
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They "look" white, compared to most the rest of the folks over that way, they allow their alliegiance to us to be bought and paid for, and the arab states hate 'em, all of which are good enough reasons for us to pump billions over there.

Talk about playing the race card...you can't even mention the right wing zealots in AIPAC without being labeled anti-semitic...and it's also no surprise that the PNAC is loaded with right wing Zionists.

Fish on...

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#537489 - 09/14/09 05:25 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Todd]
Salmo g. Offline
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I'm opposed. I think Israel should be sending foreign aid to the United States, if anything, in this twisted relationship. Somehow that doesn't gain any political traction. But as an alternative, I advocated giving the Palestinians, $ for $, the same aid we give Israel, thinking that by leveling the playing field, they might blow each other to smitereens, and the U.S. would then be rid of two big pains in the A$$. As sensible as that one is, it doesn't gain any political traction either.

Sg

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#537492 - 09/14/09 05:35 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Salmo g.]
Chuck E Offline
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As the country lies in what is considered to be the heart of Christiandom, providing funds to Israel is a big item amongst alot of the Chrstians. That and the fact there are a lot of folks in this country with Jewish heritage and a lot give tons of money to political candidates.
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#537495 - 09/14/09 05:42 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Chuck E]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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It pisses me off to no end. It is a classic example of blind U.S. foreign policy that makes us countless enemies because of our bias.

Chuck E and Todd pretty much nailed the reasoning.

Follow the money.

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#537499 - 09/14/09 05:48 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Chuck E]
Irie Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 4317
Loc: South Sound
The f*cked up thing is that Lebanon is also in the heart of "Christendom" and not only that, but the majority of it's population is also Christian.

The catch?

They aren't a US client dictatorship like Israel.

And to the statement that Israel's not a dictatorship? If you want to get specific, it's a Theocratic Apartheid State, but the term dictatorship works well enough in the simple sense.

Personally? I hope they all develop nuclear weapons and wipe themselves and that crappy "holy land" off the map permanently.

Those groups have been at each other's throats for over 3000 years, back when the Palestinians were called Greeks and Israelis were known as Judeans.

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#537561 - 09/14/09 08:48 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Irie]
Jhook Offline
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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 247
Loc: Columbia City
Better read your history Irie. 10 years don't make one Greek.


333 B.C.
Conquest of Persia by Alexander the Great brings Palestine under Greek rule.
323 B.C.
Death of Alexander leads to alternate rule by Ptolemies of Egypt and Seleucids of Syria.
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#537639 - 09/14/09 11:12 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Jhook]
Irie Offline
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Loc: South Sound
Originally Posted By: Jhook
Better read your history Irie. 10 years don't make one Greek.


333 B.C.
Conquest of Persia by Alexander the Great brings Palestine under Greek rule.
323 B.C.
Death of Alexander leads to alternate rule by Ptolemies of Egypt and Seleucids of Syria.



That's like saying Troy wasn't part of Greece. Or Athens.

Alexander was King of Macedonia, and conquered other smaller Greek Kingdoms that were ALREADY part of Greece, before he went on to kick butt across Asia Minor. These were and had been 'Greek' long before Xerxes annexed them into Persia.

Even Northern Egypt during that era was considered part of "Greece."

Anyway, the point being, is that these superstitious imbeciles have been hacking each other into bits for Millennia, and will never stop for any reason.

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#537648 - 09/14/09 11:28 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: Irie]
GBL Offline
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Registered: 01/31/05
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The aid will always flow.
The American Jews are a very powerful group on the East Coast and no one will cross them. Plus, the Jews have been pounded on for centuries, they did not deserve it them and do not now.
And unless you have been there and talked to the average Jew, you do not understand what the reasoning behind some of the problems.
I have been going there for years on business and most jews will tell you it is 1% of the Orthodox jews causing most of the problems, which is pretty much like any country!!
Heck, many I have talked to have never been to Jerusalem (30 minutes away) and they have lived there all their lives, they just want to be left alone and are just happen to be Jewish.

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#537741 - 09/15/09 11:40 AM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: GBL]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Another reason we pay off the israelies is to keep them from destroying the sandbox. We do not want isreal involved in a war over there, the global ramifications would be huge to say the least. WWIII at a minimum, no esta bueno.
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#537783 - 09/15/09 01:07 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Thrasher Offline
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Registered: 12/11/06
Posts: 708
Loc: Bellingham
So essentially what I am gathering is that, in a nutshell, there is no damn good reason. Sure glad I found one more reason to be pissed off at our gubment.


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#537866 - 09/15/09 04:07 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 13530
Hank,

Yes, I'm annoyed. I think we should treat the Israelis and arabs equally in terms of military aid and then urge them to annihilate one another, ridding ourselves of two of our biggest international problems. Remember, nations don't have friends. Nations have interests. And I'm a problem solver by nature.

Sg

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#538023 - 09/15/09 11:29 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: ]
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Registered: 06/18/01
Posts: 15727
KK...you seem a little more crankier tonight, did you're A.R.M loan for the sand shrimp reset today... grin
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#538144 - 09/16/09 11:20 AM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Not surprisingly, KK can talk your ear off...for the most part, anyone who complains about my talking complains because it gets in the way of their non-stop prattle...

Fish on...

Todd
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#538758 - 09/17/09 11:01 PM Re: Israeli Foreign Aid [Re: ]
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TTT
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