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#721962 - 11/30/11 02:53 PM New National Defense Authorization Act
Sky-Guy Offline
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Have any of you heard about this? Americans could be stripped of their rights and sent to Guantanamo Bay under the terms of the ‘indefinite detention’ provision of the National Defense Authorization Act set to be passed by the Senate this week.

How do you feel about Military roaming the streets of America, clearly in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, seizing people without cause or fair trail? If things blow up in this country, escalated from the protests we see today, how could this law be used against our own people? Why else would these provisions be added to the bill? Scary times...


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-new-n...y-scary-2011-11

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#721963 - 11/30/11 02:58 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Sky-Guy]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Will it keep us safe from terrorists?
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#721965 - 11/30/11 03:00 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Dan S.]
Todd Offline
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More to the point...will it keep the Military/Industrial Complex safe from us?

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#721966 - 11/30/11 03:01 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Dan S.]
Sky-Guy Offline
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All those terrorists that seem to be roaming the streets of america these days? probably not anymore than we are now...
more likely it will be used like our other laws have been designed and suit a different purpose, like the wiretapping that has caught tons of drug dealers and virtually no terroists...
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#721971 - 11/30/11 03:14 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Cue Hank with some right-wing c&p defending it.
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#721975 - 11/30/11 03:23 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: 4Salt]
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Cue 4salt to try to make it a partisan issue and take a shot at hank.
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#721976 - 11/30/11 03:26 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: 4Salt]
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Definitely not for it.

I've read about this from a number of sources but haven't seen, or been able to find, the language where it specifically allows the military to act this way. Not doubting it entirely, but until I can find it, and read it myself, I'm thinking this may be more alarm tyhan substance.

I think we already have enough of a police presence in the US today, not including the HSA.
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#721978 - 11/30/11 03:27 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: 4Salt]
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More fall out from the worst president in history.
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#721985 - 11/30/11 03:42 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: ]
Salmo g. Offline
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Please take note: Hank posted something relevant and timely to the thread with only a wee bit of partisanship. He musta' had a good movement this morning.

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#721991 - 11/30/11 03:55 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: ]
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It's certainly possible that this has been overblown. That seems to happen a lot these days. Even so, the question I would ask the rest of you is this:

Even if this isn't horribly bad, what GOOD can it possibly do us? How is it in the citizens' best interests to have the Legislature spending their time writing legislation like this? From this citizen's point of view, there is more reason to oppose this than there is to support it.

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#721996 - 11/30/11 04:08 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Doesn't seem overblown to me given the harsh criticism and significant reaction the proposed bill has mustered.

Also read:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29..._n_1119473.html
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#722044 - 11/30/11 06:01 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Sky-Guy]
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Registered: 11/04/11
Posts: 139
Loc: Up on Cripple Creek
What is the purpose? I would say the purpose is legalizing the military to go in the streets and do whatever the hell they want. If that's not it then what is? They better have a focus.

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#722089 - 11/30/11 07:48 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: FishOlogist]
Dogfish Offline
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It was nice to see people from both sides of the aisle opposing it. Looks like folks on both sides were also for keeping the amendment.
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#722094 - 11/30/11 08:04 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Dogfish]
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Anyone who doesn't vote for the amendment to remove that provision from the Act should be considered a domestic terrorist themself...and the trotted off to Guantanamo to rot away with the rest.

Fish on...

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#722095 - 11/30/11 08:05 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: Dogfish]
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I would say the 1%er's are getting very nervous these days.
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#722096 - 11/30/11 08:08 PM Re: New National Defense Authorization Act [Re: FishOlogist]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: FishOlogist
What is the purpose? I would say the purpose is legalizing the military to go in the streets and do whatever the hell they want. If that's not it then what is? They better have a focus.


We already have that provision, it's called Marshal Law.

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