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#808711 - 12/20/12 02:13 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Todd]
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Yup. Either we have a dispproportional number of crazies than other countries or it is our easy access to weapons capable of carrying out mass murder. Or both. One could argue that countries whom have a better work/life balance, universal health care, etc have lower incidents but then they also have strict gun control.
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#808719 - 12/20/12 02:32 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Explosives are heavily regulated. Try getting your hands on some. Even a large fertilizer purchase will have the Govt knocking on your door thanks to McVeigh.
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#808727 - 12/20/12 02:54 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Everything in life eventually boils down to one thing, pussy. The shooters are not getting any and it angers them. Woman shooters are rare why? Because its easy for them to get dik all they have to do is show the clam and someone will jump on it. No way in hell the conn shooter ever even saw a real pussy let alone get to play with one. Import them some of that Russian mail order skank and put them to work.
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#808738 - 12/20/12 03:13 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Todd]
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this is such a trajedy and my heart goes out to all those whos child or parent didnt come home!!

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#808745 - 12/20/12 03:26 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Us and Them]
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#808752 - 12/20/12 03:38 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Dogfish]
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So, the NRA is going to have some sort of a public release tomorrow where they have vowed to make "meaningful contributions" to addressing the issue.

Here are a couple of options:

1. Anything meaningful at all.

2. Proposing legislation that makes it easier to obtain, shoot, and carry guns thereby addressing the gun problem by framing the problem as "there are not enough guns", and proposing a solution to that problem, and thereby addressing nothing whatsoever.

My suspicion is that they will pay lip service to #1, support something meaningless as a token hat tip to preventing gun violence, and then wholeheartedly carry the banner of the gun manufacturers and ammo manufacturers (who are the NRA's real membership, not us gunowners) by blaming gun violence on everything other than guns.

Fish on...

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#808757 - 12/20/12 03:54 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

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Reminds me of the way they solved the banking crisis.
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#808758 - 12/20/12 03:55 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
To counter that, when the new congress convenes Feinstein will propose a bill to ban assault weapons/high-capacity magazines. It will pass.

Neither proposals solve the real problem and we're still at square one.


But that'll make the sheep feel safer...
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#808776 - 12/20/12 04:59 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Us and Them]
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Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
Everything in life eventually boils down to one thing, pussy. The shooters are not getting any and it angers them. Woman shooters are rare why? Because its easy for them to get dik all they have to do is show the clam and someone will jump on it. No way in hell the conn shooter ever even saw a real pussy let alone get to play with one. Import them some of that Russian mail order skank and put them to work.


Thank god for mirrors otherwise you'd never see a pussy.
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#808777 - 12/20/12 05:01 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd
So, the NRA is going to have some sort of a public release tomorrow where they have vowed to make "meaningful contributions" to addressing the issue.

Here are a couple of options:

1. Anything meaningful at all.

2. Proposing legislation that makes it easier to obtain, shoot, and carry guns thereby addressing the gun problem by framing the problem as "there are not enough guns", and proposing a solution to that problem, and thereby addressing nothing whatsoever.

My suspicion is that they will pay lip service to #1, support something meaningless as a token hat tip to preventing gun violence, and then wholeheartedly carry the banner of the gun manufacturers and ammo manufacturers (who are the NRA's real membership, not us gunowners) by blaming gun violence on everything other than guns.

Fish on...

Todd


Yup the old "arm everyone" argument. If everyone were armed the carnage would be ten times worse. And then LE would come in and kill anyone left pointing a gun.
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#808788 - 12/20/12 05:20 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: stlhead]
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Registered: 11/01/06
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Loc: Silverdale Wa
Originally Posted By: stlhead
Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
Everything in life eventually boils down to one thing, pussy. The shooters are not getting any and it angers them. Woman shooters are rare why? Because its easy for them to get dik all they have to do is show the clam and someone will jump on it. No way in hell the conn shooter ever even saw a real pussy let alone get to play with one. Import them some of that Russian mail order skank and put them to work.


Thank god for mirrors otherwise you'd never see a pussy.



We come on here and get to hear you be a pussy daily.......I guess that is not the same thing as seeing one.
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#808790 - 12/20/12 05:25 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: docspud]
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Almost as good as "no you are". You can have that one if you'd like.
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#808796 - 12/20/12 05:52 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: docspud]
Illahee Offline
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Originally Posted By: docspud
Originally Posted By: stlhead
Originally Posted By: Tom Joad
Everything in life eventually boils down to one thing, pussy. The shooters are not getting any and it angers them. Woman shooters are rare why? Because its easy for them to get dik all they have to do is show the clam and someone will jump on it. No way in hell the conn shooter ever even saw a real pussy let alone get to play with one. Import them some of that Russian mail order skank and put them to work.


Thank god for mirrors otherwise you'd never see a pussy.



We come on here and get to hear you be a pussy daily.......I guess that is not the same thing as seeing one.



The world and how it works, according to dickspooge.

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#808799 - 12/20/12 06:02 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Illahee]
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If the government bans assault weapons, which weapons will be banned? i.e., which firearms are assault weapons?

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#808802 - 12/20/12 06:08 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Loc: Seattle
Good to know you are ok KK I heard trailer burned down and they found a body in it today in Forks. Hate to kick a guy so far down on his luck. God bless this Christmas.
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#808815 - 12/20/12 06:27 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: Salmo g.]
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Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
If the government bans assault weapons, which weapons will be banned? i.e., which firearms are assault weapons?


exactly SG, what constitues a rifle being an "assault rifle" or "assault weapon"?

is it the sexy AR platform? that is widely used by the US Military and Police forces in the US and abroad? and has killed people in war?

is it the short barreled pump action shotguns used in trench warfare in the WWs? and has killed people in war?

is it the M1 Garand, used widely in WW2 and beyond? and has killed people in war?

the M1 Carbine? that has killed people in war?

the Colt 1911, that has killed people in war?

the lever action Winchesters and the likes that the cowboys used to kill indians and others during times of "war"?

the 1903 A3 Springfield bolt action rifle, that killed people in war?

the 1861 and 1863 Sprinfield Muskets and 1853 Brittish Enfield rifles that killed hundreds of thousands of people in the Civil War?

the 1795 Sprinfield Musket and British Baker rifles used to kill people in the War of 1812?

the Brown Bess and Kentucky Rifles used in the Revolutionary war, that killed people?

just because a bunch of plastic is clipped on a gun to make it look "futuristic" and up to date, doesnt make it any more scary than a .54 caliber Hawken when pointed at your head.. 3 10 round clips out of a Beretta 9mm could have done the same thing to those kids in the closet, a shotgun, or even a .22 same thing... it has nothing to do with what type of rifle it was, all rifles/guns are weapons, and when used against another human, wether in murder, or in war, they become an "assault weapon", because the weapon is being used to assault someone... just because you put a bunch of ferrings and flares and a fin on your 1989 Honda, doesnt make it a race car, it just makes it look like one, a crappy one, but you get the point...

in the Civil, Revolutionary, and 1812 wars, they also used swords to kill people, but those arent talked about, Bayonets were another brutal weapon... i cant remember fully, but i talk frequently with the curator of the Historical Military Museum here, and have sold him items of mine and such, and i asked him why Bayonets werent serrated, to create massive wounds and such, and he said i think it was the Geneva Convention that outlawed the use of them, and "3" sided knifes, as you couldnt heal from that type of wound... not 100 so dont quote me on that one... in any case, anything can be an "assualt weapon", i could assault the sh!t out of you with my shoe, wich then by law, makes it a weapon... gonna ban Nikes now?

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#808823 - 12/20/12 06:47 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Impossible to ban all things murder. But then it's pretty tough to commit mass murder with rocks, knives, clubs, chain saws, etc. You aren't going after Harp Seals.
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#808837 - 12/20/12 07:19 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
He doesn't have to cut wood...that's why he's got a space heater.

Fish on...

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#808851 - 12/20/12 07:57 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
They should just force children to learn how to shoot, and make them carry from five years old on.

I can guarantee you that the NRA and their owners in the gun and ammo industry would support that 100%.

They'll call it "GoBoomaCare".

Fish on...

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#808863 - 12/20/12 08:17 PM Re: Not about guns or mental illness... [Re: ]
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Posts: 3771
Originally Posted By: Hankster
No, the national Guard at the schools is a far better idea. Maybe get some drones and stuff too.


I think your an expert on dones Hank.

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