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#892318 - 04/18/14 06:15 PM Federal Government dependance- All time Highs
Sky-Guy Offline
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Registered: 08/31/00
Posts: 7083
Loc: Everett
As I sit here after Tax Day dreaming about the boat I could have bought with what I just shelled out... I run across this article. While I do care about taking care of people in need when times are tough, I dont hand ANY of my hard earned cash over to anyone who I feel can go make money on their own.
Unfortunately, here in the good old USA, there are far too many people taking advantage of these benefits when they could be working for a living, and not remaining a part of the problem. It's extremely unfortunate that the Federal Gov. is facilitating this expanding disaster...Take a look at this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-18...epidemic-levels

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#892319 - 04/18/14 06:28 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Sky-Guy]
Us and Them Offline
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
While I think the number pulling the wagon is smaller than the number riding in the wagon I question some of the numbers. Is the number of workers based on who is paying taxes vs those that are not? If so what happens to the number when you back out teens working part time paying no taxes while being claimed by their parents? If the number includes people taking subsidies that would include a ton of wealthy farmers, ranchers etc taking subsidies. Ie my wife's uncle who is worth close to 30 million living on a 4000 acre ranch in OK almost funded 100% by subsidies and tax breaks. He calls himself a conservative , I hate the prick.
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#892363 - 04/18/14 09:40 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
It's funny how different that dollar bill looks when you don't use the Heritage Foundation's effort.



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#892365 - 04/18/14 09:43 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Move "veteran's benefits" over there and add it to "military spending" and we end up with a third of our tax dollars going to fund the military-industrial complex.

Take a closer look at those "dependents", Ryley, and you'll find that zillions and zillions of those "welfare" checks are being given to multi-billion dollar agricultural conglomerates.

If the biggest corporations paid taxes in any way, shape, or form like we the people do (aren't corporations "people" anyway? I guess the are for purposes of buying elections, just not for paying taxes), then our percentage of where our tax dollars go would change considerably, too, not to mention being a lot lower.

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#892375 - 04/18/14 11:52 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
Idealistic. Go to any " conservative " area of the country and you move from on fortified area to another with and absolute shat areas in between . No Mater what your political bent happens to be the nicest places to live on US is are liberal areas and that cost money.


Edited by 43-8 (04/18/14 11:54 PM)
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#892386 - 04/19/14 12:37 AM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time

Benjamin Franklin
“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
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#892388 - 04/19/14 12:46 AM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: blackmouth]
Us and Them Offline
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Registered: 10/20/10
Posts: 1263
Loc: Seattle
Idealistic . Benjamin Franklin was just a man , not a saint. The bottom line is that there will always be those unwilling or in capable of doing their part. Do you want that group to define society or are you willing to accept that it is the nature of man and just pony up to live a little better on the whole? Sure it would be nice if everyone carried their own weight but for what ever reason that is not reality.
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#892391 - 04/19/14 01:05 AM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: ]
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Registered: 10/20/10
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Loc: Seattle
If you want to compare people to cats we have to agree to disagree.
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#892414 - 04/19/14 11:28 AM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: ]
Driftin' Offline
Three Time Spawner

Registered: 04/29/06
Posts: 1733
Loc: Offshore
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
So I'd say cats are pretty cool.


I can dig cool cats.

The vermin that designed and presently manage the ongoing economic litter box, not so much....

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#892432 - 04/19/14 02:56 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Driftin']
BroodBuster Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
I'm gonna turn 50 in a couple of years. First thing I'm gonna do is join the AARP. It will be the first time in my life I'm actually a constituant of my government representatives. And then I'm going to retire just as soon as I can weather I can afford it or not.

I ain't gonna beat them so I may as we'll join them.

Now get to work.
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#892433 - 04/19/14 03:27 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: BroodBuster]
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Registered: 10/26/10
Posts: 7204
Loc: Snohomish, WA
You son of a bitch! At least give me free rides in the boat I'm going to pay for! moose

Ryley - we're screwed and there is nothing we can do about it. I realized after this past tax season, that if I flex & tighten up it makes things that much more traumatizing. Just relax and go to your happy place.
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#892482 - 04/20/14 11:06 AM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: NickD90]
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Registered: 10/13/00
Posts: 9013
Loc: everett
I keep getting emails that tell how the rules on getting on social security disability have been relaxed.
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#893612 - 04/30/14 05:05 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Jerry Garcia]
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Registered: 09/27/08
Posts: 321
Loc: SWWA
FP's messiah promised all dis free chit if they & their dead relatives voted for him.
How you like all dis hope & changy stuff FP?
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#893626 - 04/30/14 07:42 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: Misguided]
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 4898
Loc: in the mass production zone
Originally Posted By: Misguided
FP's messiah promised all dis free chit if they & their dead relatives voted for him.
How you like all dis hope & changy stuff FP?


huh

this makes absolutely no sense.
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#893630 - 04/30/14 08:14 PM Re: Federal Government dependance- All time Highs [Re: ]
BroodBuster Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Bothell, Wa
Originally Posted By: Banned User
What a dumfuk...FP said no Such thing, as he hates all politicians equally.

Nice little racist lingo from your sad pathetic worthless shittstained ass though.

Get back to wherever the fuk you were before you decided to display your ignorance here jackass.


This however, made absolute perfect sense smile
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