#935927 - 08/03/15 05:02 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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He also voted for the bill that allows women to donate the fetal tissue...not baby parts, you fuckin idiot...if they so choose.
That's exactly what happened when he was whining last week and trying to rouse up his voting base of jacknobs, fools, and idiots.
Judging by your responses he was successful.
Fish on...
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#935980 - 08/04/15 01:53 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Todd]
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Returning Adult
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He also voted for the bill that allows women to donate the fetal tissue...not baby parts, you fuckin idiot...if they so choose.
Todd How sad, and shows how low the human race has stooped to satisfy it's own narcissistic desires. It is only "fetal tissue" because sick people deem it to be such. The lie has been told so many times even good people like Todd believe it. To anyone: One doc does a UltraSound of a 4 mo. old baby and shows it's mother how her little one is doing. Mom gets all teary eyed, as does the nurse at seeing this new human developing into a real person. Next room over, a doc does an UltraSound of a 4 mo. old baby that the mother never gets to see. He's done it for the sole purpose of insuring he doesn't damage any "marketable" organs. Then he rips the BABY out of mom one piece at a time. Real possibility: None of your past GF's have ever become pregnant with your child. One week she walks in and tells you she is pregnant...this is your future son or daughter. You begin to think about how you're going to teach him/her to fish, how to row a driftboat, excel in school and grow up to be a wonderful human being. Next: She up and tells you that, IF YOU DON'T MARRY ME I'LL KILL THIS BABY. So, now it's "real", Do you let her kill your potentially only child, ever, or do you step up, get married for at least long enough that she carries your baby to birth? REAL SITUATION: What are ya gonna do? Todd: Although I've only been here a short time, you seem like a decent fellow. I'm glad you're mother didn't want to kill you because she liked her wonderful figure too much, or wanted a new purse, instead.
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#935983 - 08/04/15 06:00 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/02/15
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Should add here:
People have almost diametrically opposed beliefs on this subject, and the reason why is it is such a serious issue...more than serious, in fact.
It is not an issue you can just glibly toss out a response to off the top of your head. It requires the type of thinking that many Americans have abandoned, that being taking an issue deep down in your gut and having a serious, honest chat with yourself about it.
Mr. Garcia poses the question: "At what point does "fetal tissue" become a baby?"
"Fetal Tissue" IS a baby. The term "fetal tissue" is used with an intent on reducing the humanity associated with killing a baby...doesn't sound like a real life when it's called fetal tissue.
That baby wants to live, which is why they are fighting each day to develop their organs to a point where they can come out and see the world.
The only voice they have is that of their mother, but then if she is so selfish and caught up in herself she only wants her freedom back...at any cost, she has been given the legal right to murder her unborn baby. I can only imagine the mental anguish they must feel when their baby is now dead by their hand, but then rationalize their way around it by calling it "fetal tissue". IMO the woman is just as guilty of murder as the doc who technically performs the murder.
Baby killers always like to toss in the plot complication of "what if it is incest or rape"? As horribly evil and unfortunate as it is, a life is still a life.
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#935986 - 08/04/15 08:35 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Poodle Smolt
Registered: 05/03/01
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If you don't like abortions, don't get one.
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#935992 - 08/04/15 09:07 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/05/04
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If you don't like abortions, don't get one. I don't plan on it, but I may not appreciate being forced to pay for other people to have them.
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#935996 - 08/04/15 10:10 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Todd]
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Purr
Registered: 07/20/15
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He also voted for the bill that allows women to donate the fetal tissue...not baby parts, you fuckin idiot...if they so choose.
That's exactly what happened when he was whining last week and trying to rouse up his voting base of jacknobs, fools, and idiots.
Judging by your responses he was successful.
I'd say he was only partially successful. Hankster hasn't got roused up enough to even do a cut and paste on the topic and he is one of the biggest jacknobs, fools and idiots out there.
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#936000 - 08/04/15 11:46 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: blackmouth]
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Registered: 05/03/01
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If you don't like abortions, don't get one. I don't plan on it, but I may not appreciate being forced to pay for other people to have them. Probably the lamest response to this argument that I see posted time and again. Lots of people don't like paying for implements of war. They don't like paying for a $700 hammer. They don't like paying for anything that .GOV uses their money for. .GOV wastes a lot of our money. Suck it up buttercup. Maybe you should just not pay taxes in protest. See how that works out for you. Moving to another country could solve that, or maybe you could form your own territory and secede from the nation. I do understand that some people find it repugnant. That is certainly your right to have an opinion on that. I have no need to control what another person does with their body or property, as long as it does not directly impact me. I would expect that somebody would extend the same courtesy to me. Here is the thing. This repugnant action was ruled legal by the US Supreme Court. You are not going to change this unless: 1.The US Supreme Court reverses a decision on an earlier case by making a contradictory decision on a current case. 2.Congress and the States can overturn a decision by amending the Constitution. Neither are likely scenarios. You want to know why the Republican Party has been such a failure in the past few elections? They cling to stupid arguments that they cannot change, like abortion. They also send the most far right a-holes to the front of the line, leaving the bulk of the voters in the middle alienated. You want to see them lose, keep this up. Don't change a thing. So tired of this same tired and asinine argument. Why don't you toss in religion as well. Might work this time. Rant over.
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#936004 - 08/04/15 12:37 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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All the arguments eventually boil down to lame ones, especially the "small government, fiscally conservative" hypocrites who want the government to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies, and to burden the economy with unpaid for children...who they then resent for being that way.
Fish on...
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#936005 - 08/04/15 12:38 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
Registered: 01/27/15
Posts: 4566
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Too late.
Abortion has already weeded out the strong from the gene pool.
Only the weaker planned fetuses have been surviving.
The world is doomed.
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#936006 - 08/04/15 01:27 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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If you kill all the baby's who will fight the rich mans wars for them? Drones....Duh!
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#936011 - 08/04/15 02:22 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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The Rainman
Registered: 03/05/01
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3% of their funding goes to fund abortions the rest covers women health so you are saying save the babies kill the women. also don't forget it is against the law for Federal money to pay for an abortion.
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#936012 - 08/04/15 02:29 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 05/27/00
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Loc: Stumpy Acres
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Fuk it! I'm going fishin'
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#936013 - 08/04/15 02:53 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Returning Adult
Registered: 02/02/15
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My belief has nothing to do with law, government, money or religion, but with right and wrong.
If a woman does not want to get pregnant, there are dozens of birth control options, including just keeping her britches on. Evidently women don't know how to say "NO" instead of "Oh..no worries, screw the hell outta me and I'll just get an abortion."
Sex today is treated more like a sport or hobby than a way to propagate the human species. How did it get that way? The media. All you got to do is turn on a TV at prime time and check any major network...every damn show revolves around someone getting laid, and nobody wants to be responsible if a baby is the result.
People today will gladly hold the door open so a woman can walk in and murder her unborn child, and then they'll walk across the street, pick up a sign so they can protest hunting, fishing, trapping or anything else that might harm an animal they have deemed to have "rights".
What about the rights of that unborn baby?
Not afraid to say what I believe, and the best argument the opposition can provide is saying "It's not a baby...yet."
Anything else is a rabbit trail intended only to muddy up the waters.
And of course, you are all entitled to your own opinions.
Steelspanker: I did not phrase that correctly. Should have said "Those who abort baby's are murders." FYI: I'm not trying to persuade anyone, as that is a choice that a man and woman must make, and they also have to live with the consequences.
End of rant..y'all can go back to acting like a bunch of adolescents now.
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#936016 - 08/04/15 03:29 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: GoldDigger]
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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If a woman does not want to get pregnant, there are dozens of birth control options, including just keeping her britches on. Evidently women don't know how to say "NO" instead of "Oh..no worries, screw the hell outta me and I'll just get an abortion."
This, of course, is what 97% of Planned Parenthood's budget goes to...and, of course, ZERO % of federal funding...your tax dollars...can be used for the 3% of the budget that goes to abortions. Fish on... Todd
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#936019 - 08/04/15 03:50 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 11/05/04
Posts: 2572
Loc: right place/wrong time
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Dogfish,
That was probably the lamest response to a post that I've seen in a good while.
Well at least you admitted that your post was a 'rant'. However you should take heed as you are beginning to sound quite a bit like Tood, I.E. the use of hyperbole in a straw man argument.
Let me explain,I do not think that it is right to force people to act against their religious beliefs, and arguably the constitution does not allow for it. I am not religious but I respect the rights of those who are, as I respect the rights of people who find abortion to be against their beliefs to protest the fact that they are forced to pay for such procedures.
Additionally, I made no mention of the ability to obtain an abortion as in fact I respect the right of any and all people to seek out any legal medical procedures.
So next time before you 'rant' you might consider what it is that you are responding to before you climb on your high horse, O.K. Buttercup.
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#936027 - 08/04/15 05:46 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Piper
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this argument is exactly why morning after pills need to be handed out free of charge like dog bisquits at the drug store...
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#936032 - 08/04/15 07:10 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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If you don't like abortions, don't get one. I don't plan on it, but I may not appreciate being forced to pay for other people to have them. Probably the lamest response to this argument that I see posted time and again. Lots of people don't like paying for implements of war. They don't like paying for a $700 hammer. They don't like paying for anything that .GOV uses their money for. .GOV wastes a lot of our money. Suck it up buttercup. Maybe you should just not pay taxes in protest. See how that works out for you. Moving to another country could solve that, or maybe you could form your own territory and secede from the nation. I do understand that some people find it repugnant. That is certainly your right to have an opinion on that. I have no need to control what another person does with their body or property, as long as it does not directly impact me. I would expect that somebody would extend the same courtesy to me. Here is the thing. This repugnant action was ruled legal by the US Supreme Court. You are not going to change this unless: 1.The US Supreme Court reverses a decision on an earlier case by making a contradictory decision on a current case. 2.Congress and the States can overturn a decision by amending the Constitution. Neither are likely scenarios. You want to know why the Republican Party has been such a failure in the past few elections? They cling to stupid arguments that they cannot change, like abortion. They also send the most far right a-holes to the front of the line, leaving the bulk of the voters in the middle alienated. You want to see them lose, keep this up. Don't change a thing. So tired of this same tired and asinine argument. Why don't you toss in religion as well. Might work this time. Rant over. Reposting this post is the reason why it is unfortunate that this forum doesn't have a "like" or "agree" button. Gold Digger, We would probably agree on a great many things, but although there is wide agreement on values of right and wrong, they are still relative and not universal, regardless of what you believe. Abortion is on that list of relative values. Just because it is wrong to you doesn't make it wrong universally. If you understand human psychology at all, you already know that sex is as much about sport and hobby as it is about procreation. You can want it not to be, but that won't make it so, but an intelligent guy like you most likely already knew that. Sg
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#936033 - 08/04/15 07:13 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Timber]
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Carcass
Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 2298
Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
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Fuk it! I'm going fishin' 10-4
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#936034 - 08/04/15 07:16 PM
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Registered: 06/18/01
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Mitch O'Connell is one mealy mouthed lyin' POS, SOB & he's fully in O's pocket & complicit.  Did you bother to figure out why he voted no? Obviously not. Hank, this old rhino fart needs to be gone 20 years ago. Does he give you a boner while you spoon your fat feline?
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#936036 - 08/04/15 07:20 PM
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Registered: 06/18/01
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this argument is exactly why morning after pills need to be handed out free of charge like dog bisquits at the drug store...
Drop one pill on each order of chicken nuggets at mickey d's.
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#936038 - 08/04/15 07:29 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Carcass
Registered: 01/09/14
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Leave Franks Cat out of this.
There is nothing at all wrong with what Digger is saying, obviously others have different opinions on right and wrong...so what...
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#936039 - 08/04/15 07:31 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
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Drop one pill on each order of chicken nuggets at mickey d's.
 Donf forget your local 7-11
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#936051 - 08/04/15 09:48 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Reposting this post is the reason why it is unfortunate that this forum doesn't have a "like" or "agree" button.
So you like posts that are hyperbolic fabrications, based on faulty assumptions. Why am I not surprised? I'll tell you why, because that is the way the liberal mind works, their beliefs prove it.
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#936053 - 08/04/15 09:55 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
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Reposting this post is the reason why it is unfortunate that this forum doesn't have a "like" or "agree" button.
So you like posts that are hyperbolic fabrications, based on faulty assumptions. Why am I not surprised? I'll tell you why, because that is the way the liberal mind works, their beliefs prove it. stfu, whiny bitch.
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#936055 - 08/04/15 10:20 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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Shooting Instructor for hire
Registered: 10/26/10
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Two things:
#1: This subject matter is socially unsolvable. You cannot make two sides of the same coin face the same direction in the same space & time. Sides are already chosen. Minds are already made up. This entire thread is cannon fodder and pointless, except to fill the role of said cannon fodder. Ya'll are wasting key strokes on this.
#2. I had a burrito for lunch today.
Like my earlier vid implies, "I'm here for the gang bang". And that's exactly what this thread is. It's fun and all to partake, but everyone is just going to go away all sticky, carpet burned & rashed up.
Now, with that said.....who wants a mustache ride?
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#936056 - 08/04/15 10:21 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Go to flames.
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#936058 - 08/04/15 10:24 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Now, with that said.....who wants a mustache ride? Not from your skidmark unicorn.
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#936061 - 08/04/15 11:13 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Now, with that said.....who wants a mustache ride? Not from your skidmark unicorn. BOOM!
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#936062 - 08/04/15 11:21 PM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Now, with that said.....who wants a mustache ride? Not from your skidmark unicorn. Ah don't worry, I'll pull out so you won't have to be a single mom.
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#936066 - 08/05/15 07:33 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Approx. week 5
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#936071 - 08/05/15 08:29 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Both the egg (ovum) and the sperm are alive, but unjoined neither one are able to survive more than a few days, however joined they become a human blastocyst and it possesses the potential to grow into an adult. One medical lexicon defines baby as, "An infant; a newborn child. Anti abortionists often prefer to use the term "Human life". Consider; The National Conference of State Legislatures states that "Currently, at least 38 states have fetal homicide laws. The states include: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin. At least 23 states have fetal homicide laws that apply to the earliest stages of pregnancy ("any state of gestation," "conception," "fertilization" or "post-fertilization"); these are indicated below with an asterisk (*). The page can be found here. http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspxI supplied the above only as food for thought----- for those who care to.
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#936081 - 08/05/15 10:04 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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Again, this subject is unsolvable.
When does life begin?
If there was a clear cut answer to that question, this wouldn't be as difficult to deal with. It's all relative and its all personal to one's belief and moral system.
To me and this is just me, "life" begins at the "fetal viability" stage or that point at which a fetus can live on its own with a better than 50 / 50 shot at survival. Most doctors pin this at or around 25 weeks. At 25 weeks, there is better than a 50 / 50 chance it will survive (in general and statistically speaking; every case is different). There are no National standards on "fetal viability" dates. That's left up to the States to decide. Some States are at 20 weeks, some are at 28 weeks. As with cancer or AIDS, these dates will change as modern science and health care improves.
BTW - I'm pro "its not my place to decide what is best for someone else". I'm not pro-choice and I'm not pro-life. I'd rather abortions never had to occur in a civilized society, but I understand that sometimes they do. Every circumstance is different and I can only decide what's best for me at every turn in the road of life. Don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you what to do. Extremists on both sides like to tell others what to do and its us folks in the middle that are getting awfully tired of it.
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#936203 - 08/06/15 10:13 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
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In addition to all their normal male hormones, horny creatures that they are, if men had the capacity to become pregnant and carry babies to term, abortion would be the rule, not the exception. Did that come from Mother Jones or Progress Now? I've heard it bounced around the interwebz a lot. I don't know that I heard it previously, but maybeso. It's a pretty easy conclusion to come to. Most of the people who want to decide if women can have abortions or not are men, which is kinda' weird.
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#936206 - 08/06/15 10:43 AM
Re: No defunding planned Parenthood...
[Re: Sol Duc]
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My Area code makes me cooler than you
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You are all a bunch of after birth eatin baby rapers.
Women have many other holes to use that don't end in pregnancy.
A law should be passed that requires use of only these holes when the woman does not want to become pregnant.
A health inspector should be dispatched to observe, inspect, and approve the use of these holes only.
A document should be filed to record the frequency and use.
A tax should be imposed to pay for the entire thang.
A hard on has no conscience.
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