This post has gotten way off the topic. And way out of hand. Anyways just a thought of mine. I dont believe in hunting with hounds. And If you think about it baiting bear is similar to fishing. So if your against feeding bear you should not fish. You set out bait to bring in bear and then shoot them. What do you use to catch fish?? You use bait right. Im an avid hunter and fisherman. First of all in Southwest Washington there are not a ton of cougars. How often does a hunter see a cougar? How often does one get attacked? Did the guy on the Kalama get attacked or did he just see a cougar. Did he get killed? think about these questions and that may answer a few questions.