I resent the fact that some of you people are labeling me as a snagger. Truthfully, it's getting me pretty fired up. As many people on this board can attest, I AM a sportsman. I have a true passion for fishing and I am also a pretty darn good fisherman. Do I release nates? Absolutely....Do I clean up my trash? Surely... Do I educate rookie fisherman? All the time.... The only river in which I employ this tactic is the Cow. Heck, I don't think me using a 6 foot leader is overkill. I never said "I" was the one using the 10 footer. Watch the guides freedrifting during the summer @ Blue Creek. Every leader is at least 5 feet. I've caught many fish with long leader legitametely "inside" the mouth. If you go back to the original question I simply asked on what other rivers is this technique used. This wasn't supposed to become one of those venting posts. Come on guys....It was a simple question. On what other rivers do you see guys using such techniques?