Bill, all the answers will come to you, when someone comes to your employer and tells him, they can no longer do business, in the same manner, or same location or just raise taxes, that they drive him out. Bad management and greed, are not an excuse, to eliminate an entire industry. Get the Columbia squared away and make the legislature find other areas, that commercial fishing can function. You spend way too much time, thinking why it wont work. Thats not solving the problem. The first metal machine tools were made by hand. You have to start somewhere. [/quote] ---- I`ve had to change careers several times in my life, same as market hunters,fish wheel operators,loggers,whale hunters,etc. So what your saying is we shouldn`t think about this and just vote yes? Seems kinda like voting on a bill without reading it. The first bronze tools were made by beating the crap out of a hunk of metal with a rock,yea that doesn`t make much sense either nor does it apply here. BTW LB, I asked you a question when I answered yours regarding wanting to kill all the wild fish, which was do you want to end all sport fishing? You never replied. Some of the postings that I`ve read from you lately seem to indicate that indeed you do. This should be much easier when commercials have no ESA impact and sports are the bad guys hurting all the nates. Bill