Not to bad as a starting point on the conservation side Francis. I will add that we get the preseason forecast at the Advisory Group meeting the 28th, then one can begin to look at what is or is not possible for harvest for 2013. I replied to your PM DR just a little running behind on the e-mail thing.

Little edit: The one thing I can say with certainty that will happen this year is everything that happens in the Grays Harbor NOF and the allocation process will be made public. No exceptions.