About the mind set thing. Those who follow the Chehalis will recall I cleared the moon when Regional Director Larry Philips advocated and pressed for changes to Wynoochee Coho mitigation. Not no but hell no was where I was after damn near 30 years of WDFW failure to meet its obligation. Well after some time and looking at things in a different way I realized I was wrong. The nooch wild Coho could not take the additional pressure and doing the required yearly numbers on the nooch with the make production for years not done on the Satsop is just about the only way to get it done. You see it is the mind set thing we are all guilty of it!