My brother just told me that encounters of Recs on NOR was about 25% of those landed / released and some good fish arrived at the Naselle hatchery and same %. Now it is much lower in the donut hole with commercials so a dust up is underway. Could be a lot of reasons but but the only way to check is see what portion of the encounters were on the boats with observers. Say if 80% report encounters with NOR's were on boats with observers we have a problem I think I think.